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Art, Activism, and the Plight of Humpback Whales

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Hello everybody. This is Lidia Lupinto, lydia lupinto. I have 801 and I was supposed to appear live in uh in my group uh, which is the um save the the humpback whales from windmill. It's a brand new group that I started just a few days ago and it's having fantastic responses from people. I think it's because the group is designed to prevent all of this nastiness that goes on in other groups. There seems bullying and cyberbullying and trolling, and this discourages people from participating, and that is what I'm trying to prevent.

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I want to create a safe place for you to come in and, most importantly, I want artists in here. I don't care if you're an AI artist or if you like to paint or if you like to take photographs or videos. I want you in here displaying your art. You can even, if you want, promote your art for sale. I don't think there's a store, but I'll have to check into it. There might be a store associated with groups and I'm not sure, but you can definitely put your link here where people can find your art if they want to purchase your photographs. As far as authors like myself, I'm inviting anyone that is doing anything regarding the whales to come in and definitely you can talk about your book or put in a blurb about it and you can put in a link to your web page or amazon. I don't allow any other sales of nothing, that's if it's not related to whales, I'm not gonna allow it.

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I also do take the the job of um approving every single one of the uh posts, which is a lot of work, and I make sure I read them before I post them, and I posted a group important notes that in this particular group, you are not going to be allowed to have discussions or arguments about big topics such as climate change or anything else. You can put your opinion, but you're not allowed to respond to that opinion in a way that would encourage a discussion, and the minute I see that, I will remove the post. If you attempt to criticize people or if you're trying to start a conversation or even an argument, you will be suspended for about 12 hours and if you persist in that, you'll be suspended permanently. So this is hopefully a different type of group, a group where you can feel safe and it's really meant for artists, authors and it's really meant for artists, authors, activists If you're starting a new campaign in your area for whales, whether it's a fundraiser, whether it's a demonstration or any other way that you can do to stomp for the whales. You can share that information with us.

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Let's exchange ideas of what are the best ways to get people involved about saving the whales. How can we communicate with them that we need to save the whales from the windmills? Of course we need to save them from things like illegal hunting, which is still going on. There's at least 700 of them a year being killed by hunters, and that's in Norway and another area as well, where they had traditionally hunted whales and they don't want to. Oh, japan, japan continues to hunt whale. So there are international agreements that say that we shouldn't be hunting the whales, particularly humpbacks, because they're endangered. Now some of the other whales that they hunt may have 10 times as much the population as hunt bats Hunt bats and I've checked this number several times it's more than 30,000. I have trolls in here saying they're not 30,000. There are so many more and that these whales are plentiful and the windmills are doing no harm by killing a few, and the windmills are doing no harm by killing a few. We need the energy more than we need to save the whales. These are the kinds of people that come in here and I end up having to ban. If you can imagine, I don't have tolerance for that. This group is about saving whales from any kind of harm, including hunting, and it's a mammal that not only is it self-aware, it is more intelligent than a human. This thing is self-aware, it's intelligent, it's a creature equivalent to us, but with a different environment that it lives in. It lives in the water. So we don't have, in my opinion, the right to invade their habitat and put electrical power generators in that habitat without proper study as to what that's going to do to their population. And already from the book that I am writing, mourning Our Whales, I have discovered that there is probably a total of 550 whales that die every year due to windmill, attributed to windmills Okay, are attributed to windmills. Now the discussion as to whether they die from the windmills or they die from nets or run over by boats.

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My book goes into those possibilities. For each whale I go through and I examine the data. I go through and I examine the data. I go and find the local articles that are posted by actual journalists who actually have a soul, people who care about the community and care about the whales and they post what they perceive as the truth. These are the articles that you need to find and look for, because those are most likely the truth.

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All right, and these are journalists who check their facts and, uh, if you go to mainstream media, I call it mainstream or, I guess, national media, that would be called national media. They aggregate stories from all over the country and pick and choose which stories they think are going to sell the most, or which stories they think their sponsors are going to want to show to the public. And sponsors are going to be people selling windmills. Okay, so they're not going to post anti-windmill information when their very sponsors want to want to, uh, put up the windmills. So you see how they're already compromised because they're working based on advertisements in the big numbers, big amounts of advertisement in the millions of dollars of advertising keeps their paychecks going, and so if they say, no, we can't post any anti-wind propaganda, put information, then they cave in because if they go against the industry, they're not going to have a paycheck, are they? So that's why it's skewed, it's, it's just capitalism and how media is by paid advertisers, and so it can't be really a totally, I guess truthful, it's always going to be labeled as propaganda.

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Propaganda meaning advertisement. Paid advertisement is propaganda. Propaganda is not always political. It's the way that you send it. It's like an advertisement where they tell you this gadget is the best gadget in the world, when you know there are probably 25 gadgets that are cheaper and better, you know that's propaganda.

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So when you go to the local groups, the local reporters, you're going to find people that are interested in serving their community. You're going to find people that are interested in serving their community. So if dead whales are bad for their community, such as they spoil the beach or they spoil the view, or the windmills are spoiling the view or many other reasons, they're going to post articles that are more for helping the community and they're going to be mostly for the whales because they don't want them dying, because a lot of ecotourism relies on the existence of these animals, so they have an interest in keeping them alive. So you're going to get more of a balanced view from the local community newspapers and that's what I concentrate on in this book called, let me forget, mmsc Marine Mammals Stranded. It's a catalog of them, but I also take data from other sources because they don't have every mammal that has been stranded and other sources don't have every mammal that's been stranded. So I need to create big spreadsheets. I extract all that data, create my own spreadsheets and actually go through and make sure they're not duplicates. And then what I do is I take each whale when it died, I find the town and the local newspaper that responded on it, and then I go and find the national outlet that responded and then any articles related to activists who might have complained about that there's too many strandings, or articles from industry saying that, no, they didn't have, uh, too many strandings. So I try to be a balanced it's a balanced book and I show you what the industry says and what the um, the people that are for the whales say. It's always the same pattern. However, this always seems to be a cover-up about the fact that the windmills are close by.

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One of the things that I needed to do in order to create this book, which is like a database in a novel, in two different ways. I had to figure out how far each whale died from the original windmills, and that took some doing. I also had to figure out how old they were and many other data that isn't that often shared by the news outlets. They seem to leave out information like that and that's what creates the confusion from people. If they leave out information strategically to avoid a public outcry, then you're not going to get the right information and you're not going to really know what's going on.

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The other problem that I see is that national news outlets cover one out of 10 of these and they cover them so briefly that the results are basically prioritized so that you don't see these deaths. On Google and Bing, which are the search engines that most people use, this is done intentionally by the people that propose wind as an alternative and it's definitely a paid effort of propaganda. In other words, people like Microsoft, like Bill Gates or other people that are pushing for wind, or Democrats or many other groups that push for wind power, are going to pay Google to prioritize their story over the story of the local, small local newspapers who can tell you how many whales have died. So it has taken me an enormous amount of work and computing work, database work to try to merge all the data, cross-reference the data with the local articles. And there's 100 whales, so there's 100 local articles they were and any necropsy results that could have given you a clue as to what these whales could have died of and show you how far they were from the windmills, and after 100 of these, you start to see the patterns. Then I'm going to, of course, have charts and different graphics at the end as an appendix, but I wanted to give each whale its own space, its own story. Treat them as individuals, because all the data that I have seen shows that these are self-aware, actual intelligent individuals, as intelligent and as self-aware as we as humans are, and this is really hard for people to believe they are.

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If you've seen videos of marine mammals playing with balls and these I'm talking wild animals playing with balls with you and interacting with people, you'll know that these are not just any animal. These are intelligent animals. I had the amazing experience as a teenager of walking by uh in an area where they had a dolphin show and walking by the uh the the pool where they kept them. As you know, they they were actually in jail, the poor animals, but they were bored. So I had the um amazing experience of one of the animals interacting with me throwing a ball at me. I mean a distance that was several, you know, 20 feet high. It threw the ball at me and it made sure I caught it, which was? It just blew my mind and then I threw it back and he threw it back and this went on for quite a while. This animal wanted to play with me and this animal had an amazing ability to throw a ball right into my hands. I mean the aim of this thing and his eyes on either side of his head. I don't even know how he did it. Okay, but that was my first experience with marine mammals and how they can interact with you.

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And then I've been on numerous whale watching trips. I've went on cruises that we did whale watching. I did, of course, swimming with the dolphins. I've done any number of things like that, and all those experiences have added to my love of these animals. I think I have to say that I love my dogs, and they're not even as intelligent as a whale, and I absolutely love my dogs and because I know that they have an intelligence, that they respond to me, that they know what I'm saying.

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Okay, so these animals, considering that the numbers say 30,000 in the entire world of humpback whales, the largest mammal on the surface of the earth, and for us to install electrical machines that cause unbearable noise to their very sensitive ears and systems is criminal, especially since I have seen the studies that they present to get the permits for these machines and they don't even talk about the harm they could be doing to marine animals such as whales. Okay, I just downloaded Mr Murphy's presentation and it was awful. They didn't really even talk about what it's going to do to the whales and we depend in New Jersey on whale watching. This is a business and people go on them all the time. This is an ecotourism business and for them to ruin it like that for a few kilowatts that are going to feed the hotels and really the gambling casinos, seems criminal to me.

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Ok, the other thing I wanted to talk about is today I posted about the astroturfing. If you're not familiar with that term, that is a practice by politicians in industry to manage a particular environmental organization so that it only reports things that are useful to them. And unfortunately I found that this marine mammals stranding center is astroturfed and a lot of the activists accused them of because they've been angry at them. I could see from the groups they've been angry at them. I could see from the groups they've been angry at them because they continuously deny the effect of the windmills on the health of these animals and keep covering up. As I look at the numbers that they publish, they are increasing on a monthly basis.

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The more of these windmills we have, the more deaths are going to be. Why is that? Because the whale can basically swim over 100 miles in one day. A humpback whale, it is an amazing machine, it's a, it's like a speedboat. It has enormous power. It can. It can go fast, a hundred miles in a day.

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So it's not going to meet just one wind farm, it's going to meet all of them, because they're all the way down of the coast, so from the top to the bottom, they're going to meet windm their ears continuously. Uh, have them have problems with echolocation. Then it's basically as mr trump said, it's driving them crazy, which, if I were just boating in that area with those windmills, it would drive me crazy because the noise would be unbearable. Okay, uh, mr trump just said that it drives these whales crazy. He has a way to make things very direct and easy to understand, so I think that's probably a good, a good thing to say, uh, and as they go down that coast and I have a list of all the windmills, from the very up north all the way down to my area in Atlantic Shores, atlantic City. There's many, many windmills. There are about 30 of them and they're all listed and in each one there's been deaths.

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But also the whales are traveling from top to bottom, so they're going to meet up more than one windmill. And unfortunately, when they did their studies I don't think they had the correct pathways where the whales travel, pathways where the whales travel. They do travel through, kind of a road, you might say, where they always find the food, and you can see them traveling those areas. Well, I think they're in the path of the whales. That's why they keep running into them. They either had to put these windmills further out in the ocean or maybe not put them there at all because they seem to be running into them. Ok, so they just came out a new documentary that explains exactly how these whales are being affected by the windmills, and it's a paid documentary. I posted the demo of it and I'm going to try to make some time to see it. It looked very good, well put together and that shows also the electrical cables.

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Now we have cables in the ocean for Internet. We have those, they usually put them in kind of a trench in the ocean, so they really don't get to the whales and usually they're not magnetic, electromagnetic. Okay, because the internet cables operate a little differently than electrical cables, but these are electrical cables and, as you know, when you wrap a wire around a magnet or something, you get electricity. Sometimes you may handle your phone like this and if it's charging, you will feel like a little tingle in your hands. Okay, that's the electrical energy. It's going through your hands. It's hurting your hand. You shouldn't be doing that too often because it might harm you Anytime. You have high-powered wires, of course there's going to be an electromagnetic field around them and whales are extremely sensitive to electromagnetic fields and this is also hurting the whales.

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And these could be the cables that transfer the electricity from the windmills, which is a generator. It's the same as your generator at home. It spins around and generates electricity in a cable down to an area where it's distributed to other places. Well, as they generate this electricity, there is electrical wires that transfer it and those have electromagnetic fields. The other issue is that, because windmills are not constant, they are intermittent Sometimes there's more wind, sometimes there's no wind this electromagnetic field is going to keep changing and so the whales are going to detect this and it's just another item in their environment that they weren't used to thousands of years ago. Just another item in their environment that they weren't used to thousands of years ago and that they may not be able to adapt for the next thousand years and they may kill them for the next thousand years. So all of these considerations were not made before they put in these windmills, because a windmill is big business, because there was a climate change lobby that pushed these windmills and there was some, you know, they were all coming from China and there was big business going on and big contracts and lots of money. That's why they paid very little attention to the fate of our whales, because that would have killed their business, of course, if they had considered the whales.

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Okay, what do you want? My dog is here. I promised you that I would show you licorice and see if I can grab her. I have your. She doesn't want me to grab her. Okay, let me explain to you about licorice. Let's just talk about something a little bit more interesting. I have about 22 children's books and they're all environmentally minded. This book here is about Graveling Point Beach. Graveling Point Beach Okay, I want people to see you. This is Liquish. Liquish is my little cockapoo. Liquorice is my little cockapoo and she is about a year old. Come on, say hi, say hi, say hi, my baby. Okay, okay, you want something? Want to eat something? Okay, good girl. Okay, she's the star of many of my books. What are you doing? Okay, okay, come on. Okay, okay, okay, she's the star of many of my books, and here's one Lucrish, okay, are of many of my books, and here's one, licorice, okay, and uh, this is another book I did about the local area, and this is leon's body. This is about a spotted seal. Okay, so you can look at all these books in Cloverleaf publications.

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I don't just publish reports about whales, I publish books about all kinds of environmental topics, including children's books. This one was a special project that I created that it's about honoring each of the whales, so it's going to be a pretty thick book. It's going to have an article about each whale and it's going to also trace the issues as they evolve, because as we go through the many whales' deaths, okay, what happens is they become more intense and every time there's a whale there is a death. People realize that this is becoming more and more intense and so there's more and more outrage, and the book goes through that process of how the outrage increases, until just this month when there were two more whales and probably even three. I think I saw a third one.

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I tried to get to the point that I document well the January whales before I release the book. Then I'm going to have a QR code in there so that when you get to all the whales that died, there will be a webpage in my book website that's going to show you any new whales. Okay, I may post them here in this group, but I'm going to post them on my website as a continuation of the book. So if you buy the book, you're going to get 100 whale deaths. You're going to get articles about something called astroturfing. You're going to get articles about how ships protect themselves from running into whales and why the narrative that mostly it's ships running them over is a total lie. And you're going to get numerous articles, lists of the various wind farms that are in the area. You're going to get a list of that and then I'm going to continue it so that once, once you get to this qr page, you'll be able to see the other uh, the other whales. It'll probably be a document that you'll be accessible publicly and in there it'll continue with the new whale. So if I have, in february, three more, you'll have three more stories and I'll just keep going with that. So it'll be be an evergreen book in that if you buy this one, you don't have to buy an update. The update's going to be online for you, but it's going to be in a location that only the readers will know, because it'll be a QR code. Okay, so it's going to be a sick book.

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I plan to send it to various newspapers and organizations, and definitely a congressman, for them to realize that no, it's not true that they get run over by ships. It's not true. The people saying that in the Marine Mammal Stranding Center are paid by Mr Murphy. From her statements I just documented her statements they seem like she's just following the narrative and she's not even considering any one of those whales have died from a windmill. If they have died from something other than a boat or a net, they don't even want to mention what it is. So if it's other, they don't say it could be the windmills. It's the big elephant in the room. You know, it's unbelievable to me how they lie and they get paid to lie and these people have a soul. The activists are so upset that there's a lot of fighting going on in these groups.

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I had to leave because they thought I was one of those other people that are astroturfing. They didn't know who I am from Adam, because I'm an author. The problem is that, as an author, I don't work with any organization. I want you to know this is just me and AI. I use AI to help me. My husband is here to cook and my dogs are here to support me, but I do all the writing.

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I've been writing for now 40 years as a technical writer, as an author. I ran a newsletter for 12 years published by Elsevier Publishing. I have a lot of experience writing and publishing and now I have, I would say, 30, 40 books right now in my catalog of books that I've written, including 22 children's books, two large six novels and these reports that I do in all kinds of topics, mostly highly technical topics. I have nine right now and this one's going to be kind of a hybrid between a story and end data book because I wanted to give you a sense of who these whales were, what family did they have, how old they were, what is their role in their pod, how do they communicate with the pod all kinds of information that you might not get anywhere else, and I think this will make you feel closer to these whales.

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Okay, so I wanted to say goodbye now and thank you for listening. It is now 9.38 8.35. I've been talking for about 35 minutes and I wanted to welcome you, everyone that is coming into this group. Please don't hesitate to email me. I get a lot of trolls, I get a lot of pro-wind people that hate me, and I get a lot of hate mail for publishing this book. You will not believe that someone can actually come in and spew hate in vitriol against the book Mourning Dead Whales. It's unbelievable to me, okay, how this happens in the United States, and I've had to take some measures to keep these people out. So I'm very cautious.

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When I let you in, I check out all of your groups. I make sure you're not in any of the AstroTurf groups I made a list of them and make sure you're not one of them, and I also just if you post something, even a comment, it doesn't get posted right away. I have to go see it first. So it's hopefully going to bring make this group very safe. It may not get very big, but it's going to be very safe and you'll find a nice community of like-minded people that you'll be able to converse with and you're not going to be attacked by trolls or things like that.

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The minute I see any of that nonsense, he's gone. There's no three strikes, you're out. There's one strike and you're out. Okay, none of this trolling nonsense is acceptable here. The minute you start a trolling, you know try to. You know provoke people into some conversation, you're gone. I don't care what it's about. Okay, you're gone. So welcome everybody to this group. I'm going to put this video up for you to review other times and I'll continue having these talks I think once a week is more than enough right now and they're also going to be published on my podcast. I do have a podcast. I'll post the link. Thank you very much, everybody.